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Page 13B transcript reads:
‘… at that ‘meet’ there again there is the defendant supporting what Perry
said. So if you do accept the tapes on these matters there is support from
the defendant for what Perry said.’
Judge said on recording
(5 min 44 sec):
‘… at that meeting there again there is the defendant supporting what Perry
said about that. Get it off those tapes, look at those, well then all those
matters, support from the defendant for what Perry has told us.’
Page 13C transcript reads:
‘… look at 35.d of course …’
Judge said on recording
(1 min 8 sec):
‘… look at 35.b because that’s the latest revision. Of course …’
Page 13E transcript reads:
‘… not the transcripts which are only an assistance.’
Judge said on recording
(2 min 7 sec):
‘… not the transcripts for application as an assistance.’
Page 14B transcript reads:
‘… 2.45 Camberwell.’
Judge said on recording
(4 min 11 sec):
‘… 2.45 Camberwell High Street.’
Page 14B transcript reads:
‘… that’s the police station at 3.00 p.m.’
Judge said on recording
(4 min 18 sec):
‘… that’s the police station at 3.00 p.m. office engaged to do reports’
Page 14C transcript reads:
‘… then again it may be taken as supporting Perry’s evidence in relation to
the second count.’
Judge said on recording
(4 min 46 sec):
‘… then again that may be taken as supporting Mr Perry in relation to the
second count.’
Page 14E transcript reads:
‘What are the entries there? Twelve noon to (inaudible) re. enquiry …’
Judge said on recording
(5 min 18 sec):
‘What are the entries there? Twelve noon to West Dulwich re. enquiry …’
Page 15B transcript reads:
‘So look at the support. If you find it there then you can act on it - on
Perry’s evidence …’
Judge said on recording
(6 min 52 sec):
‘So look for the support. If you find it there well then you can act on
Perry’s evidence …’
Page 15G transcript reads:
‘… ancient history now. But the Courts did allow the practice for defendants
to make statements…’
Judge said on recording
(9 min 47 sec):
‘… ancient history now. But to all events before 1898 because there was a
risk of injustice judges did develop the practice of allowing prisoners to
make statements’
Page 16A transcript reads:
‘Now that right has been preserved by successive Acts of Parliament and it
is still a right today. And it is a right the defendant is perfectly
entitled to exercise as he cares.’
Judge said on recording
(10 min 12 sec):
‘Now that old right has been preserved by successive Acts of Parliament and
it’s still the law today. And it is a right which the defendant is perfectly
entitled to exercise, as he has.’
Page 16F transcript reads:
‘… to put it in the scale when you come to consider the evidence.’
Judge said on recording
(13 min 17 sec):
‘to put into the scale when you come to consider characterism.’
Page 17F transcript reads:
‘But I have interpreted the rules of law leniently, I think perhaps too
leniently …’
Judge said on recording
(17 min 0 sec):
‘But I have interpreted the rules of law as leniently as I can, perhaps too
leniently …’
Page 18D transcript reads:
‘… that Perry had said that the (inaudible) he had received had cost him
money.’
Judge said on recording
(19 min 23 sec)
‘… that Perry had said that the advice he had received had cost him money.’
Page 18E transcript reads:
‘Had said that the (inaudible) he had received from somebody else’
Judge said on recording
(19 min 49 sec)
‘Had said that the advice he had received from someone else.’
Page 18G transcript reads:
‘… of course if the matter is merely reiterated to you at second or
third-hand it would be quite wrong to include it, so bear that in mind.’
Judge said on recording
(20 min 39 sec)
‘… of course if a matter is merely reported to you at second or third-hand
it would be quite wrong to make him a senior principle, so bear this in mind
as we’re going along.’
Page 19B transcript reads:
‘The fact someone meets you on the way home tonight and asks you to burgle
your brother-in-laws house, that’s no defence to you when you stand in that
dock a few weeks later.’
Judge said on recording
(21 min 45 sec)
‘The fact that someone meets you on the way home tonight and suggests that
you to burgle your brother-in-laws house, it’s no defence to you when you
find yourself standing in that dock a few weeks later. Whether or no
there’s any question of anyone being an agente provocateur is not a defence
at all.’
Page 20A transcript reads:
‘… they are on the Crown’s view of the case of great importance.’
Judge said on recording
(25 min 27 sec)
‘… they are on the Crown’s view of the matter of great importance.’
Page 22A transcript reads:
‘… but he was suggesting you may think the reporters. Do you also think I
detected a suggestion …’
Judge said on recording
(33 min 30 sec)
‘… but he was suggesting you may think that the reporters had. And I thought
I’d also detected a suggestion …’
Page 22C transcript reads:
‘He said he had done so on 3rd December 1971.’
Judge said on recording
(34 min 17 sec):
‘He said so he’d done so on 21st September 1971.’
Page 22D transcript reads:
‘Any tampering, said Mr Ford must have been done before 3rd December
otherwise he would have detected it because he had the ‘Times’ copies.’
Judge said on recording
(35 min 1 sec):
‘Any tampering, said Mr Ford must have been done before 3rd December
otherwise he would have detected it because he had the ‘Times’ copies for
comparison.’
Page 22G transcript reads:
‘… and no one had access to them except in their presence. And you heard
what each expert said about the way in which those tapes were being looked
after by the police. Indeed, everybody said the greatest care was taken by
the police.’
Judge said on recording
(36 min 3 sec):
‘… and nobody else had access to them apart from those officers themselves
or those who had access to them in their presence. And compare what each of
the defendant’s experts said about the way in which those tapes were being
looked after by the police. The greatest care, Ford and his experts, indeed
everybody else said had been taken by the police.’
Page 23F transcript reads:
‘… and thirty Hz hum … sorry, thirty Hz tone bursts on others. You heard
about marks on the tapes which were described as that by one or two
witnesses by editing marks …’
Judge said on recording
(39
min 13 sec):
‘… and thirty Hz tone bursts on others. You’ve heard about marks on tapes
which were described by one or two witnesses as editing marks … ’
Page 23H transcript reads:
‘… where somebody if they going to make a mark they would make it if they
were going to copy.’
Judge said on recording
(39
min 40 sec):
‘… where you might expect somebody if they were disposed to make a mark to
make it so that they knew where to start copying from.’
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